Caleb opens up the episode by telling us how he almost accidentally killed himself in the gym. Then we get into the heart of the matter with a great conversation about fantasy stories.

We discuss why we don't read a lot of fantasy, what would make us read more fantasy, and what elements we want or don't want in our fantasy stories. We also talk a bit about fantasy movies, tabletop games such as Dungeons and Dragons, RPG video games, and Magic the Gathering.

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